How we read and date the facts on this site
Where the facts come from
We read each place’s own website and note what it says about its offer for children: ages, the weekly timetable, prices with the period covered, languages, trial classes and whether a parent stays.
Addresses, map positions and opening hours can also come from the place’s Google Maps listing. For a sports club, its link to a federation can come from the club list that federation publishes. A place with no website of its own may be listed from its Google listing alone, when the listing itself says it is for children; its page then gives only the address and opening hours.
Next to each fact we keep the page address, the reading date and a short quote in the language of that page. Guides, press articles, booking sites, social media and reviews are never used as sources.
Labels on sources
A source wears one of three labels: published by the place (its own website), Google listing (its Google Maps profile) or federation list (the club list of a sports federation).
On a place’s page the label and date stand beside the fact, so its origin and age show at a glance.
Facts nobody has published
When the pages we read leave a fact out, the place’s page says ‘not published’ and the table prints a dash. That is a statement about our sources and goes no further.
Gaps are never filled by guesswork. A school year the place names is read as the usual age of that year (CP at six, maternelle from three to five), while a swimming level or a judo belt never turns into an age. A price keeps the period the place gives; the only sum we do is the ≈ price per session, a card or block price divided by its sessions.
Class times and opening hours
The table gives time two columns. Dates and times: the days and hours of a class, a centre or a course day, as the place states them. Opening hours: when the venue is open, often taken from the Google listing.
A place can be open at an hour when no group exists for a given age. A row with only opening hours drops under the dividing line, below a heading that says why.
The after-school pages look at weekdays from 13:30 to 18:00, a slot that holds Wednesday afternoon, free of class in most schools, as well as the end of the other school days. A class counts when one of its groups starts inside the slot; a centre counts when its hours, evening extension included, cover the whole slot on at least one day.
What we leave unjudged
- No place, teacher, coach or programme receives a mark, a score or a position in a ranking.
- We make no visits, so each fact stands on a published source.
- The quality of teaching, coaching or care is outside what we assess.
- Free places and waiting lists go untracked, so ask the place.
- Prices appear as published, with period and date, and we do not confirm them with the place.
Right of reply
Do you work at a place on the list and see a wrong, missing or outdated fact? Send the right one through the correction form, with a link to the page that states it.
A correction confirmed by the place’s own pages goes into the next update and into the log of edits. A place that closes keeps its page, marked ‘closed’, and leaves every table.
You can also ask for your place to be taken off the list: choose ‘Ask for a place to be removed’ in the form and leave a contact detail that shows you write for it. The place, its page and its rows in the data files go within a month.
Dates and updates
The sources of every place are read again within 6 months. A price whose period has ended stays on the place’s page with that period, but filters and the summary line drop it.
How the site pays its way
Being listed costs nothing, and no payment alters a row or its position, which always follows area and name.
A place’s page may hold one link to Zartrace, a service linked to this list and labelled as such. Clicks on contact buttons are counted as totals alone, with no personal data.
Open data
The entire list can be downloaded as JSON, one record per place, and as CSV, one line per programme. Both hold every source, label and date and state their licence.
Areas, distances and the map
Areas are the nine arrondissements of Lyon and the towns of the first ring. Each arrondissement stays whole: its name carries the number parents type and two quarters that place it, Part-Dieu and Montchat for the third, Vaise and La Duchère for the ninth. Around the city come Villeurbanne, Caluire-et-Cuire, Bron, Vénissieux, Oullins-Pierre-Bénite, Sainte-Foy-lès-Lyon, Tassin-la-Demi-Lune, Écully, Saint-Priest, Vaulx-en-Velin, Décines-Charpieu and a few neighbours. An address files under the area whose boundary holds it.
Distance is a straight line from the point you choose to the nearest address, rounded to half a kilometre. Your position is requested only when you press the button, and it stays in your browser.
A position calculated from an address is an estimate. Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors, and the boundaries of arrondissements and towns are from OpenStreetMap as well.